{"id":1612,"date":"2008-05-28T14:09:54","date_gmt":"2008-05-28T13:09:54","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.thewormbook.com\/hlog\/?p=1612"},"modified":"2008-09-08T13:40:17","modified_gmt":"2008-09-08T12:40:17","slug":"more-things-that-telegraph-readers-say","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.thewormbook.com\/hlog\/?p=1612","title":{"rendered":"More things that Telegraph readers say"},"content":{"rendered":"\t<p>The <em>Guardian <\/em>has <a href=\"http:\/\/www.guardian.co.uk\/politics\/2008\/may\/28\/thefarright.media\">a piece today<\/a> lamenting that there is an elected <span class=\"caps\">BNP<\/span> councillor who has a blog at the <em>Telegraph <\/em>site. Fair enough; but if the man has been elected and if what he posts is legal it&#8217;s hard to see why the paper shouldn&#8217;t be associated with fascists, if that&#8217;s what it wants to be. And if it doesn&#8217;t want to be associated with fascists, it will really have to put some work into cleaning up the comments section of its site. Obviously, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.telegraph.co.uk\/opinion\/main.jhtml?xml=\/opinion\/2008\/05\/28\/do2801.xml\">a Simon Heffer piece blaming youth crime on the welfare state<\/a> makes a big steaming pile of troll bait, but as far as I can see these people are entirely serious. Below the fold some results of doing a quick search through its comments for &#8220;scum&#8221;<br \/>\n<!--more--><br \/>\n<blockquote><br \/>\nThe mum, a single parent has<br \/>\n&#8220;fallen out with child&#8221; who thus gets benefit to<br \/>\nlive away from home, and study. Oh good study..<br \/>\n&#8220;what is your ambition, for which you will<br \/>\nstudy?&#8221; one asks. The reply &#8221; I will learn<br \/>\ncarpentry so I can sign on and work for cash&#8221;<br \/>\nAnd this mum only had one of these, some<br \/>\nscummy mummies have seven , eight,. At that<br \/>\nrate it only takes one generation for scum mum<br \/>\nand progeny to replace the quality produced by 4<br \/>\nmum and dad units with two kids. So 4 pairs of<br \/>\ndecent parents are matched in output by one<br \/>\nscum mum. You should hear children in school<br \/>\nclasses preparing their scams, excuses to police,<br \/>\nfake claims of injury, assault.<br \/>\nPosted by fiona plymouth on May 28, 2008 10:21 AM<\/p>\n\n\t<p>Come now! You have scumbags in the Labour government\/public schools telling everybody that &#8220;rich&#8221; people do not deserve their wealth and that they &#8220;stole&#8221; the wealth from the lower class and then wonder why the lower class resorts to hopelessness\/resentment-induced violence.<br \/>\nLabour scum are the real criminals.<br \/>\nPosted by Edith on May 28, 2008 10:14 AM<\/p>\n\n\t<p>Very good article. There is no way anyone should be paid by the State for having more than two kids. No one should be paid for a lifetime of welfare .If people won&#8217;t choose to be sterilized the kids need to be adopted out and no messing. If kids can&#8217;t be raised decently they need to be hiked out into rescue schools. We have models of this that work very well.<br \/>\nWe do need manufacturing and proper tech training, but it cannot be right for youth to hang around being feral. We used to recruit the scum of the earth into the army. Why do we not do so now? Sweden is not a perfect model,they have trouble with unempoyed youth, they have problems with immigrants,where there are troubled schools people are bailing out into private schools. They do have National Service. Everyone has to do it and women can voluteer for it.<br \/>\nYoung Mothers need to be in work and not mother on the State. They shouldn&#8217;t get anymore<br \/>\nmaternity leave than anyone else.<br \/>\nVery good article<br \/>\nPosted by Caroline on May 28, 2008 9:54 AM<\/p>\n\n\t<p>Until some of the feral scum, are exterminated like they were in south America the rest of us tax paying citizens will not be able to sleep safe at night<br \/>\nPosted by Steve Byrne on May 28, 2008 6:23 AM<br \/>\n<\/blockquote><\/p>\n\n\t<p>The only question, I suppose, is whether the police should be paid overtime for exterminating feral scum, or whether the market should take care of rewarding them &#8230;<\/p>\n\n\t<p>More seriously, it&#8217;s true that all newspapers have problems with lunatic commentators, and keeping them under control is a thankless and expensive task. But this kind of thing isn&#8217;t said in a vacuum. The web concentrates and distils opinion and the Telegraph is I think lending respectability and force to these attitudes. Now that won&#8217;t worry Heffer, who wants to see the Welfare State abolished. But it might just worry David Cameron, when these people turn up at party meetings. I assume he&#8217;d rather have them in his own party than voting <span class=\"caps\">BNP<\/span>.<\/p>\n ","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"\t<p>The Guardian has a piece today lamenting that there is an elected <span class=\"caps\">BNP<\/span> councillor who has a blog at the Telegraph site. 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